Beavis & Butt-Head "Do the Universe" (Spoiler Free Review)

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Chad Bishoff: 0:07

The 80s and 90s were so rad.

Adam Wintz: 0:10

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Chad Bishoff: 0:38

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Adam Wintz: 0:42

Dude! Season 3.5

Chad Bishoff: 0:46

Hell yes. I always I always miss the time that when we're away like I miss you like I haven't seen you in forever. You moved. You're in a whole new spot right now.

Adam Wintz: 0:59

I'm in Arizona, bro. I GTFO N E and moved to the AZ in the SW

Chad Bishoff: 1:09

Okay, stop this. You're you are 40 I just want to call this out real quick. Like you are 40 right now. So yeah, there's that

Adam Wintz: 1:17

I'm having the time of my life. Well, let me ask you this. Have you seen any good movies lately? Or any movies period lately? Not including yours?

Chad Bishoff: 1:28

Well... no, not including mine. I don't put mine into that category. But so well. Our last episode we did Top Gun Top Gun Maverick. It was awesome. Everybody knows you know that. So the next piece of cinema that I watched since Top Gun... was... Beavis and Butthead Do the universe. That's literally the next piece of cinema I have seen. So I'm okay, so first off, I'm halfway through the movie. And I guess this is spoiler free.

Adam Wintz: 2:11

SPOILER FREE everybody, you can listen to it. We're not gonna say anything that's not in the trailer, or on the one liner on IMDb. The premise of the movie basically,

Chad Bishoff: 2:22

I was excited to sit down and watch it. I think I'm halfway through. And I think my biggest mistake was watching it next to my wife. And I could sense the judging nature every step of the way. So that might have tainted my my view of the film. It I'm literally halfway through and I remember thinking of of you, Adam, and have our last Beavis and Butthead episode where I'm like, complaining and like Adam, you're you're you're you're weak. Like come on. This is your you're missing the point. And I got halfway through and I got to the point to where if I, if I heard "Laugh" one more time, I was gonna I was gonna punch the screen. Like, I think it was so hard to get through. Like, I don't remember it being that intense like that. I mean, not intense like that, that they they made that sound that often. It got to me, 22 minutes is a lot different than an hour and a half of, you know, yeah, so I guess I called it cinema, because it's a movie. But I really need to take cinema or film out of it and just say it's a movie because I think the true definition of a movie Top Gun Maverick was a film and experience and this is a movie.

Adam Wintz: 3:46

Yes.

Chad Bishoff: 3:48

I have been dying since I saw it to find out what your thoughts are.

Adam Wintz: 3:53

Well, for anybody who remembers or hasn't listened to our Beavis and Butthead episode with the illustrious Sam Fischer, fellow podcaster are one of our first guests ever on the show from season one. He loved it. And I enjoyed it very much as a kid. I enjoyed it as a young teenager. But I did get to the point in the episode where I was like, Guys, I have to admit that as a 41 year old going back and watching this stuff, it's so stupid. It's just I don't know, man. It's not nearly as good as it was

Chad Bishoff: 4:31

And Sam is 10 years older than us so just I want to put this into perspective real quick. You know, he's of a 70s generation we are of the 80s generation. Yeah, I this is one of those episodes where I have a feeling we're fairly on the same page. Not a lot to to talk about but set up the premise, setup the premise.

Adam Wintz: 4:54

He gave me a hard time and he was like, Come on, dude. Boo. He literally booed me He was like, have a beer, relax and just watch it and watch it with friends and have a have a have a beer and he was upset that I hadn't seen Beavis and Butthead Do America, the original one. And it has been 26 years now, since Beavis and Butthead was on the big screen now this is streaming on Paramount plus, so it's not actually on the big screen, but it's a movie as you put it, 26 years since the last movie, and here it is now and 2022. And it's it's it's out Beavis and Butthead Do the universe. And I have to say 26 years was far too short of a time for these guys not be on the big screen. And it comes down to this. It boils down to this. It's Beavis and Butthead is meant for small doses. It is not meant for an 86 minute movie. And this was some of the 86 of the longest minutes of my life, dude, I was thinking, like, surely we're about a half an hour into it now. And it wasn't even 15 minutes yet.

Chad Bishoff: 6:09

It was like 8, you're like, we're halfway through right. No. It's been eight minutes of the entire movie.

Adam Wintz: 6:16

Yeah, it. There were some good point points to it. I did have a couple of laughs here and there. But if a glowing review of Beavis and Butthead. Do the universe. You're not going to hear it from Adam and Chad.

Chad Bishoff: 6:32

Here's the difference. Beavis and Butthead are so dumb that it has to be small doses. Even the TV show had had music, video, music playing throughout it, and then they did the review. So literally, you only actually watched Beavis and Butthead three minutes at a time in a show like yeah, great doses, great doses, three minutes, unlike Southpark, and Simpsons and other cartoons, that are shows you can watch those for forever, because there's more substance. There's more characters to follow around. It's not one note, Beavis and Butthead have one, one mission. They never get laid. It's the only thing that they think about want need, whatever. And, and that's the one note.

Adam Wintz: 7:27

Now hold on. If Sam were here, he would say they have. They've got more than one note. They've got nachos. They care about nachos. Beavis cares about fire. So there's at least two things other than just trying to chase women and quote score unquote... nachos and fire. That pretty much sums it up. Things that are cool that don't suck. But when you take the music videos out of it, you don't have you don't have the there was there was like, what the core of what makes Beavis and Butthead work in the 90s was the fact that they reviewed quote unquote, and reviewed, made fun of parodied did Mystery Science Theater 3000 With music videos, you take that out, you're right. It's a one note basically one note thing that gets really old really fast. And

Chad Bishoff: 8:26

that 80 minutes is unbearable. Oh, horrible. Like, come on. Like don't sugarcoat Adam, I expect more from you.

Adam Wintz: 8:34

Well I actually I sat, pause and wrote something down. If Beavis and Butthead was ever good, it was because it was making a point about the TV generation, mocking, mocking society's short attention spans lack of education and desire for instant gratification. But instead, this movie is 90 minutes of two dumbasses doing dumb things with no social commentary, or any redeeming features nothing to justify the crass humor. Now I wrote that before they did have a couple slight moments and social commentary.

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Chad Bishoff: 10:11

From a nostalgia standpoint, this, you're not going to hear as Adam just said, we're not going to recommend this, this movie, like it's not like, you know, you really got to go out of your way to see it go buy Paramount plus to see it. We're not saying that. However, I will say we did laugh. I mean, so if you're curious about it, I know I laughed. What I found interesting is, and we wanted to bring Sam on today, I know we were going to bring him in halfway. And he unfortunately couldn't make it. He was sending me Facebook fan clubs to join after the movie came out. So I hit him up. I said, I said, it's a bummer you can't be on. So he sent me a few notes. And I feel

Adam Wintz: 10:55

Oh so he's here in spirit.

Chad Bishoff: 10:56

So he's gonna listen to this. So I want to make sure to try to get most of his spoiler free stuff in. Point one. And this is the first thing he sent to me was, it was the dumbest movie I ever saw. Where I laughed out loud 15 times.

Adam Wintz: 11:13

Okay,

Chad Bishoff: 11:13

So there's that first bullet point in and of itself, I find interesting because it was the dumbest movie he ever saw. And he knew how many times he laughed, because it was only 15. But, you know, how many times did you would you say you laughed in the film? Even if it was internal?

Adam Wintz: 11:32

I laughed. I laughed one time. And I there was I laughed one time exactly one time. And I also there was a moment where I was like, Oh, that's funny. I didn't laugh, but I'm like, that's pretty good. So I'll say one and a half.

Chad Bishoff: 11:53

Okay, so I will say I laughed four. So I'm in between 15 and one and a half. And maybe it was I think I internally chuckled a few more a few more times. But so this one, I don't we can't get into the details of it. But he felt and this is this is the real talking point that Beavis is maturing as a character in this movie. So for all of the talk, that that about two dumbasses. And one note, I actually agree with Sam, that that at least. And this is the lowest common denominator, of course, but I do feel like he was maturing as a character

Adam Wintz: 12:43

in the sense that it's like a kindergartener going to a first grader. You know what I mean? Like, that's the level of have developed, he did have. He did have a arc, too. He did have a little bit of an arc. And I would say it's akin to Garth's Ark ark in Wayne's World two that's what that's what his ark is.

Chad Bishoff: 13:19

So not much.

Adam Wintz: 13:22

But to say he's evolving as a character, I guess ever so slightly. Does it? Does it make for like an actual character art that sustains a movie? No, it does not. And do I think so. So they're gonna they're this is the setup for the new series. Like there's going to be a new cartoon series now. of 22 or 30 minute episodes on Paramount plus launched by

Chad Bishoff: 13:54

there is

Adam Wintz: 13:54

Yeah. And I doubt very highly. That the any character development that'd be misunder goes in this movie carries forward to the new show.

Chad Bishoff: 14:48

Yeah, no, there's no setup for that. That's not being carried over. This isn't like a whole new Beavis moving into the TV show. That's that's not the case.

Adam Wintz: 14:58

But what else does he have?

Chad Bishoff: 14:59

He loved it, but we'll never watch it again. But most importantly, he specifically said Don't let Adam give you the oh gosh, it's so immature. I don't relate to it Bull S See I'll censor it to these calling it out. He says don't go on to the podcast. Don't go on to the show. And then Adam gives you this absolute BS. Then he called me on the phone and he reiterated he says Chad, don't you let Adam do it? Don't you let Adam do it? I'm like, Well, I'm gonna let Adam do whatever whatever Adam wants to do.

Adam Wintz: 15:36

But I saw you senor yourself there? You're gonna say Adam do Whatever the H.E. double hockey sticks he is going to do, but you just censored way to go. I should have he should have made time to come on the show if he wanted to rebut my my thing. And I already said it. It's this is good in small doses. The there was we talked about it last time we covered Beavis and Butthead that there was some social commentary that Mike Judge intentionally made it this way on purpose. Roger Ebert picked up on it when he did his review. I picked up on it when he did his review, but that's pretty much out the window now. And there's just it's just two dumbasses doing dumb stuff for 90 minutes. 85 minutes, 86 minutes.

Chad Bishoff: 16:23

So Do the Universe is literally, there is there is no commentary. There is no commentary. There's no social statement, you know, at all.

Adam Wintz: 16:33

We'll talk about when we get into spoiler territory for Patreon only, we'll talk about a couple instances where there was some slight social commentary. It doesn't redeem anything, though. And it'd be it's because they become parodies of themselves. Okay. Like, when Beavis and Butthead came out, they were lampooning dumb. Americans, dumb mouth breathing. In many cases, stoned Americans, chuckling watching TV, doing dumb things, lighting their farts on fire. And it was a it was a it wasn't championing it champion championing that. It wasn't saying, Oh, this is great. It was like making fun of and making fun of dumb Americans who the TV generation,

Chad Bishoff: 17:21

Who became brainwashed by television.

Adam Wintz: 17:25

Exactly. And now we're so far beyond that, that they're just two guys chuckling their way through stupid scenarios. There's no point to it. They they they've stopped being a symbol of something, and now are just that thing. I don't feel like this is just me being an old curmudgeon. When I say this, I don't think it's a funny movie. I don't think it's a good movie. And I think it says a lot that somebody who was a huge fan, the way Sam Fisher is a huge fan says he will never watch it again. That because

Chad Bishoff: 18:04

that's a statement on that's a statement on it's that dumb. So the one thing Sam left me with is he says, talk about this. You have to put the lens of your former dumb 13 year old self back on to watch the movie. Sam is in no way an idiot. You know what I mean? Like, he's a he's an intelligent human being.

Adam Wintz: 18:34

I agree.

Chad Bishoff: 18:34

But it's one of those things where he reminded me it's like, you have to put that lens on you. He didn't go into it. As you know. As a as a man who's in today watching it in his 50s he put the lens of his child that awkward. Like pupil pubescent puberty scared the living hell out of this guy. I know. He's told me that personally, he hated 13. You know what I mean? It's a scary time for boys and girls, everybody, any human going through puberty? It's an awkward damn time.

Adam Wintz: 19:10

Yes.

Chad Bishoff: 19:10

And, and so if you put that cap back on, if you put back on the insecurities and the dumb natured way you were, and then watch the movie, you're going to have an entirely different experience, than if you go, this is going to suck and you turn it on, like watching it with my wife. I wanted to watch it again before doing this to see if I caught anything else. And I couldn't bring myself to do it. But I would have had a different experience. I think had I watched it, you know, with like another bro dude, or even alone for that matter, you know, or in a different state of mind.

Adam Wintz: 19:52

It look it's not that I take myself too seriously. And it's not that I can't put myself back in. In when I was 14 or 12 13 14 When I came out. It's not that I can't do that. I do a podcast about stuff from our childhood. We live I live my gimmick. I've got NBA Jam right behind me. You know, I can definitely tap in to my early pubescent self there's and what it was like to be a kid and excited about things. I think I outgrew Beavis and Butthead in my late teens. You know, I by that time it was just in Hey, whoever finds it funny. Great, more power to him. I thought this was not a good movie. It was a struggle to get through I had to break it up over two nights and I did not just watch

Chad Bishoff: 20:47

you did that again. Same thing with meatballs

Adam Wintz: 20:50

I will that's funny because I have a note in here I was gonna say I would rather watch meatballs 100 times rather than watch this one more time like me Meatballs was hilarious compared to Beavis & Butthead Do the Universe.

Chad Bishoff: 21:04

I think I think on our social media that should be I think we should just not hide what we talk about and on social media. The post should be I would see meatballs the movie 100 times before watching Do America or do the universe

Adam Wintz: 21:19

Yeah. I don't think they did enough with the again? premise. This isn't a spoiler because it's in the trailers. And it's you know, in the one liner on IMDb or any description that you would see. They they're at a science fair, they burned down the place. You know, because butthead is trying to kick or does kick Beavis in the nads, the burn burned down the science fair, a judge sentences them to space camp. And then from space camp, they end up actually going into space. So that's a rip up rip off of a Simpsons premise. And then then, in space, somehow they go through a black hole, and fall from 1996 or 98. into 2022. And these guys go through these guys from the 90s go through, and are now in 2020. And I don't think they capitalized on that premise at all, there were a couple of things. But mostly, it wasn't nearly as funny. They didn't invent nearly enough scenarios, to capitalize on that price.

Chad Bishoff: 22:33

the biggest. Okay, you know what I just so now that we're talking through this, that's what that's what was wrong with the movie for me, is the premise in and of itself is going from the 90s to 2022.

Adam Wintz: 22:46

It should have been various,

Chad Bishoff: 22:48

it should have been hilarious. And there was only like two statements on anything relevant or pop culturally relevant to 2022 or anything.

Adam Wintz: 22:59

And they're very obvious ones.

Chad Bishoff: 23:02

Yeah, yeah, there are so many things that they could have done along the way to continue that subtle narrative. And if you cause think about this, on the premise of what you were saying, try trying as desperately as we can to put an intelligent premise to this. Two dumbasses go from the 90s. There still brain dead to 2022. And that are confronted with all of the changes in personalities, technology, life, everything. You could have put so much in that to do a statement on society rather than one Joke one. One statement joke. That's it. And then there was one thing on technology and that's it. So that's what was lost.

Adam Wintz: 23:48

Yep.

Chad Bishoff: 23:49

You know, that's why that's why it didn't work as much. I mean, it's I'm blown away that so many people out there, and I give stuff a lot of credit. I even give bad stuff credit.

Adam Wintz: 24:01

Yeah.

Chad Bishoff: 24:01

And I'm struggling with this one. Because it's, it should be so great. And I guess I just didn't put my 13 year old self into the mix enough to be able to get it. I mean, I think that's...

Adam Wintz: 24:16

I don't, I don't think you can look it's not it's not up to us to like something I like we shouldn't feel pressure to be like, oh, we need to have a beer or put ourselves in a mind frame of a 13 year old boy. Like it that if a good movie, a good comedy should bring that out of us. It should if it was done well. And I was open to this. I didn't go into it hating it. I really wanted to find something to like about this. And I want to tell Sam like, Hey, I liked it. You're right, you know, but But it should it should have brought back the nostalgia it should have brought back the the feeling of being a 13 year old kid. And instead I'm thinking 26 years isn't enough distance from these guys.

Chad Bishoff: 25:03

So why are so many people liking it then. There are so many people who liked this. I don't understand it. Like it's getting positive reviews.

Adam Wintz: 25:14

Yeah.

Chad Bishoff: 25:16

You know, and again, I I don't know where to go from there.

Adam Wintz: 25:21

Like 7.9 on IMDb. I mean, it's I

Chad Bishoff: 25:27

I don't understand it for it's for once I don't understand something.

Adam Wintz: 25:31

Yeah it's weird. I will say the positive out of it. I did like the animation because it was it was it was, I'm given understand I didn't research it, but it was digital. But it had the look and feel. It wasn't that choppy. Early 90s anime

Chad Bishoff: 25:56

Oh, the early 90s animation. Yeah, it was deciding who doubt it was, but it retained

Adam Wintz: 26:00

the the original design Mike judges original designs. And and and so and I wasn't pulled out of it the way I was, say the Simpsons Movie, or something just seemed like overly produced or overly polished or seemed computer generated. It seemed. I liked the animation. I thought it was good.

Chad Bishoff: 26:23

Yeah, the animation was great. I, there you go. We said something positive about it. The animation was great.

Adam Wintz: 26:30

Another thing that was positive, because it was a movie and not on TV. Beavis could say fire fire. Yeah, you know, because they couldn't say fire on MTV after a certain point.

Chad Bishoff: 26:42

You know that that that was a moment where I smiled. I did smile warmly. I didn't laugh, obviously. But I smiled warmly within when I heard fire like that. That was like, We're back. We're back the way it's intended. And then it didn't stop.

Adam Wintz: 27:00

It was a good premise that they did not capitalize on. The animation was charming and good and reminded me of that time.

Chad Bishoff: 27:09

And I guess if you if you have the emotional maturity of Sam, you're gonna laugh about 15 times. If you have the emotional maturity of chad, it'll be around four or five and Adam, one and a half,

Adam Wintz: 27:25

one and a half.

Chad Bishoff: 27:26

I'm curious to see after people, if people see this movie, I'm really curious to see what other other people who listen to our show have to think. And give us a laugh count. I guess you know, so this count, let us know, it's low enough that you'll be able to count it. I think it's if you get past 15 Just say you laughed your ass off.